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authorities say a jackson county man who

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early this month was telling the truth

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as to what he believes happened jackson

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barney mathis said a two and one half

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hour lie detector test run by a new

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orleans sperm affirmed that charles

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hexan was telling the truth as to what

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he believed happened jackson county

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sheriff fred diamond gives us this

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statement of the polygraph operator

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after the test uh attorney at law and

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pascual lewisham and the jackson county

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sheriff's department did on october 30th

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1973 conduct a polygraph examination on

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regarding the truthfulness of his

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statement that he saw a spaceship free

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space creatures and was taken to this

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spaceship on october 11 1973

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is my opinion that charles dixon told

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the truth when he stated number one

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that he believed he saw a spaceship

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number two that he believed he was taken

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into this spaceship at number three that

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he believed he thought for three space

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witnessed my secretary this thursday of

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glass crow witnessed by marvin l leonard

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that was jackson county sheriff fred

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diamond i'm lance carson for the kevin

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what's up everybody i switched it up a

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little bit i started with uh our little

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testimony piece i i hope you enjoyed

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uh play a kind of a different part of

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that uh later on it's it's pretty

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interesting case

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recently we've had

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of different asap documents

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and reports um that the dirts the dir ds

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you know actual the actual reports you

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can read them um and i put the link in

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the description for you and they're

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they're pretty heavy for sure

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uh one of them is struck me

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in in a big way you could say and

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anomalous acute and sub-acute field

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one that we're going to go over today it

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was written by uh kit green

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if you're not familiar with kit green

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you can you can look into them a very

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brilliant person

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um and this uh study this report he did

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now these uh reports were put together

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they did and all that kind of stuff

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uh included a contract awarded to bass

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other people did work up for it

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could almost guess that what

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they're doing is reverse engineering a

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spacecraft

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propulsion uh whether it be warp drive

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human biological tissues really uh was i

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was most uh affected by

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reading it

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so i'm not going to waste too much time

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i'm going to get into that with you here

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to me this is pretty heavy stuff because

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asap was

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this is something

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that was like hey have fun go do

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whatever you want you know this is real

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serious stuff and

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biological effects

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this report is what he's talking about

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this is so

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so it's a long report and there's a lot

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me which really is all of it to be

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honest but

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you know mentioning in the small amount

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of time we have uh i'll bring those up

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all these different uh topics chapter

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two background what is the thought to

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cause harm

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setting the stage what others have said

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about injury caused by emr field effects

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distribution this is included at the end

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here's a ufo thing how fun this is

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field effects

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individuals who experience anomalous um

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this paper relates summarizes and

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uh through clinical diagnosis certain

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injured from exposures to anomalous

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and if they want to do that they have to

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understand all these effects

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that this vehicle has

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i understand how this sounds but i'm not

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sufficient incidence accidents have been

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um again the link to download this for

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yourself is available in the description

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uh what you should do what i recommend

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engineering of advanced aerospace weapon

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is all the different things i mean

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they're talking about things like um

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being able to microwave talking voices

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into your brain

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you've heard

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i've heard cases where people

301
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um are communicating

302
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with whatever

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the beings are

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and exposures of course of the that's

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kind of the most dominant and here's the

306
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but by far is not the only one

307
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we are aware of claims that some new and

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emerging systems may be intended to

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and thus even be an intended weapon

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system

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this report they make no attempt

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here i just skipped this part

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we will not include except by reference

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discuss ionizing radiation tissue

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effects unless they're produced to be

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the cash

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which

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i guess hipaa

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prevented a lot of those records from

320
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there is ample precedent in us history

321
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for utilizing a separate analytic

322
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framework for the verification and

323
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compliance issues as in the leg and are

324
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recognizing former soviet union and

325
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chinese systems utilizing infrasonic

326
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laser blinding uh and i emr weapons that

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went

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unappreciated by our intelligence

329
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agencies for two decades

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historically intelligence community

331
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verifies first

332
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takes on the claims of injury

333
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and then compliance afterwards

334
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after a lengthy state sponsored

335
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this review does not include

336
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epidemiological infectious disease or

337
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so

338
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this is long and it'll take forever if i

339
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go slow like this so

340
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i'm going to speed it up just a little

341
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um all these references to anomalous

342
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aircraft and anomalies aerospace systems

343
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there's relatively comprehensive

344
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literature on reported

345
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effects from exposure at close ranges to

346
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perceived anomalous aircraft

347
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effects include such phenomena

348
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paralysis shocks electrical shocks

349
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feeling of heat burns perception of

350
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odors

351
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this is all stuff that has to do with um

352
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so and then they talk about this new

353
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unclassified material

354
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so they take this case where a guy

355
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basically they determined uh was a bit

356
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psychotic and thought the secret service

357
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or fbi was

358
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attacking them with beams and stuff and

359
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it got down to it they

360
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decided that he

361
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um

362
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you know had didn't have a pot to piss

363
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in so to speak but there was a paper

364
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that he mentioned that he was able to

365
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foia they were surprising him but no one

366
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else um i had this because

367
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apparently other people tried to avoid

368
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the document and were unable to but this

369
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gentleman did

370
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and was able to and they mentioned how

371
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the paper at least that he mentioned

372
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throughout this whole thing

373
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was an actual legitimate real

374
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paper

375
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that

376
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classified information and these are

377
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some of the bullet points from that

378
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paper classified information exists that

379
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is highly pertinent to the subject of

380
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the study and only a smart small part of

381
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the classified literature has been

382
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so

383
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right here we're saying that um

384
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the government has a bunch of classified

385
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information

386
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on this stuff and only a small part of

387
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that classified literature has been

388
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there's no evidence that the systems

389
00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:37,440
described in the document have been

390
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the development of generators and aiming

391
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devices is not a rate limiting issue

392
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there is no doubt that they would work

393
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the concerns therefore that individuals

394
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exposed to field effects as described in

395
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the document and in this paper would

396
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suffer the claimed

397
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amongst the systems described are those

398
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of special interest in this effort

399
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:06,559
claimed injury from near field exposures

400
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to aerospace anomalous vehicles and

401
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systems

402
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:12,480
as will be described the pattern and

403
00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:15,760
circumstances of injury very often

404
00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:18,240
uh belay naysayer attempts to discredit

405
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,480
witnesses

406
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analysts and those who suffer directly

407
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or indirectly from the systems

408
00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,880
even those who are from time to time

409
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:28,080
delusional

410
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are not necessarily poor reporters of

411
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information outside their particular

412
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so

413
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inscom i think i n s

414
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c o m analysis described as real and

415
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potential include

416
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uh these microwave communication co2

417
00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:05,840
laser communication ability to instill

418
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fear secondary to above

419
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,159
including with use of messaging

420
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:14,320
and radio frequency carrier wave

421
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:17,520
modulated intracranial voices

422
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,400
through thermal elastic expansion of

423
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intercranial

424
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:24,320
spaces

425
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ability to direct thermal effects to

426
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include directed pain

427
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:32,480
ability to cause frontal temporal

428
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seizures

429
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:48,149
synchronization through stimulation of

430
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loss of consciousness muscle spasms

431
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:57,200
muscle weakness

432
00:21:02,789 --> 00:21:00,480
increase of core body temperature

433
00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:02,799
remember that one increase of core body

434
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,120
temperature remember that one

435
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:07,280
because i'm going to bring up something

436
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,350
is uh very interesting

437
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:16,390
nausea and vomiting

438
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,320
disorientation

439
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:20,480
can easily be

440
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:37,750
so i'm gonna keep going here

441
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:39,669
yeah so this is definitely something

442
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:42,840
that you have to take some time and

443
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,559
read

444
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and especially if you're

445
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:49,440
you know well familiarized with

446
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,240
um

447
00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:52,559
you know

448
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:55,120
abduction cases or

449
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:00,789
you can really put

450
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:06,870
interesting here ironic don't you think

451
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:13,029
often block totally the sounds and

452
00:22:21,919 --> 00:22:25,750
so

453
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,830
keep going

454
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,080
to give but one hypothesis with regard

455
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,240
to exotic mechanisms there is a

456
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,640
possibility that those are effects

457
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,440
predicted by general relative

458
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:39,520
relativity theory that would correlate

459
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,000
with some of the reported data in which

460
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:43,600
the black body heat spectrum of an

461
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:46,080
object an anomalous craft

462
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:48,000
would be blue shifted

463
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,679
increased in frequency

464
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,520
under conditions of space-time

465
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,120
manipulation

466
00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:55,679
for lift in propulsion

467
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,520
we're a human exposed to blue shifting

468
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,440
at relatively close range symptoms

469
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:01,360
associated with broadband radiation

470
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:04,159
microwave visible uv soft x-rays could

471
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:13,110
medical data supports this option that

472
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:14,320
is

473
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:26,630
mentions here again cash landrum case

474
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:29,440
these cases and all other clinical data

475
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:38,310
one of the outcomes from exposure

476
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:43,909
due to any of the above phenomena is

477
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,149
this hazard is one of daunting

478
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:54,559
challenges to be met and overcome even

479
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,039
when it comes to consideration of such

480
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:59,039
human-oriented activities as space

481
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,120
flight for extended periods of time

482
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:03,360
fortunately the understanding of the dna

483
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:04,480
structure

484
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:12,789
then they talk about how the damage

485
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:14,640
occurs

486
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,240
that gets really

487
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:18,240
detailed

488
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:27,430
hot spot range

489
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:40,070
they do talk about

490
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:41,600
you know and we've actually went over

491
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:43,039
these studies as well here there have

492
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,480
been several studies

493
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,320
encompassing about 100 reported cases

494
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,480
during acute accidental exposures in

495
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:50,480
military aerospace and communication

496
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,120
situations that have collect collected

497
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:55,440
data on human exposures

498
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,070
so clinically acclaimed injury patterns

499
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:06,559
of several hundred near field cases of

500
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:09,919
anomalous and hostile events

501
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,320
being currently analyzed for a companion

502
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:15,360
study to this

503
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,400
described in appendices a b and c

504
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,000
emergent findings

505
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,080
all cases

506
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:24,240
which exposures are of the order of

507
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,950
right here warming prickling fixation

508
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,880
burning

509
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,200
went over this already

510
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:39,600
there's some more here though

511
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,300
uh here we go

512
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:50,640
[Music]

513
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:52,400
right down here in the note space flight

514
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,400
and possible weapons applications were

515
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:56,960
of great concern and sources indicate

516
00:26:07,669 --> 00:25:59,600
that there was concern of reported ufo

517
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:09,830
i mean what else do you want to be sure

518
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:11,200
that this is

519
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:27,110
burns

520
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,149
so i mean

521
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:32,240
again i should say that you should read

522
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,080
this and when they talk about near field

523
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,320
this is good to know as a term in this

524
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,000
and companion studies refers to the

525
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:39,919
subjective distance

526
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:41,919
in part between the injured patient and

527
00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:48,950
source of microwaves or unidentified

528
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,120
object

529
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:52,480
[Music]

530
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,310
uh nato has done a study on this very

531
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:06,720
recent nato meta analysis is defined on

532
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,000
the other hand low thermal and

533
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:10,240
non-thermal broadband effects in humans

534
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:11,840
that can be induced by non-lethal

535
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,320
weapons

536
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,240
the development of an active denial

537
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,200
system ads so ads

538
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,360
we actually have one as well

539
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:23,440
i believe and what they were used for or

540
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:25,919
were developed for were

541
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,200
protester riot type situations

542
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:31,120
they shoot beams at people and heat them

543
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,720
up to the point of where they

544
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,080
you know stop doing what they're doing

545
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:38,399
basically

546
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:46,470
non-lethal

547
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,950
um

548
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,389
in addition

549
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,080
there is additional rich and established

550
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,080
literature that describes well the

551
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,720
subacute level effects of

552
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,720
particularly radio frequency and

553
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,039
microwave fields on human and animal

554
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:15,909
it should also be mentioned that

555
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,640
beginning in the late 80s

556
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,480
a thermal incident energy of

557
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:22,640
time-varying magnetic fields

558
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:30,230
depression alleviation dermal cell

559
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:35,029
no injury potential for this bandwidth

560
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,960
that said numerous reports on both the

561
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:38,240
anomalous

562
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:40,240
event as well as the clinical medical

563
00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:41,840
literature describe the occasional

564
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:43,480
effects

565
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,200
experiencers

566
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:47,440
or patients utilizing such therapy

567
00:28:59,500 --> 00:28:55,029
there's no reason to put experiencers or

568
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,510
patients you could just say patients

569
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,840
[Music]

570
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:03,600
these effects include occasional mild

571
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:06,240
and localized warmth when touching

572
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:19,110
under the electrode

573
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:21,669
skin receptor served by peripheral

574
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,919
nerves and pleasant cognitive effects

575
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,679
and relaxation

576
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,360
although we can hardly categorize such

577
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:29,520
near-field effects as injuries we note

578
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:32,000
and catalog them as non-specific

579
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:41,669
and this gets this part gets extremely

580
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,110
so yeah

581
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,880
there's you know other things that are

582
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:04,159
available too

583
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,200
that you can

584
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:08,000
read to get to it

585
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:11,440
um the 2007 bioinitiative report updated

586
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,230
oh yeah the double slit experiment yeah

587
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,279
i did a whole episode on um

588
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,559
on that

589
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:25,279
maybe a couple months ago now

590
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,190
it's definitely legit

591
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,430
indicates that acute effects primarily

592
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:36,720
involve tissue heating from these

593
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:40,240
modalities however as well for 99 of the

594
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:43,520
medical literature on field effects

595
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,640
heating isn't the current concern okay

596
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:47,600
so

597
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:48,840
i wanted

598
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,789
they go through the limits of basically

599
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,159
what people can take

600
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:02,000
on cognitive and neural injury

601
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,710
definitely

602
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:13,430
very intense reading here

603
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:14,559
talk about

604
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:16,640
study done armstrong brooks united

605
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:22,070
as the purpose of this paper is to argue

606
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,640
that data exists to reverse engineer

607
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:26,559
propulsion systems of anomalous

608
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,070
so if you want to know if the government

609
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:39,600
is trying to reverse engineer ufos here

610
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:49,350
as the purpose of this paper

611
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,950
by ossep

612
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,710
contracted by the dia

613
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,029
as the purpose of this paper is to argue

614
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,360
that data exists to reverse engineer

615
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:03,760
propulsion systems of anomalous

616
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:16,470
right

617
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:19,509
i don't think that's what it's saying

618
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,039
to think it's saying anything else you

619
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:23,120
would have to read it differently

620
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:24,559
or have

621
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,230
data exists to reverse engineer

622
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:33,840
propulsion systems of anomalous

623
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:35,919
aerospace sphericals independent of

624
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:39,360
origin based on biology

625
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,909
so yeah

626
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:53,669
they get really into the brain stuff

627
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:56,159
there

628
00:33:02,230 --> 00:32:59,679
yeah this part is a little i mean

629
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:02,240
it's pretty clear what it says there um

630
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:06,240
independent of origin based on biology

631
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,470
but

632
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:12,080
you know that's why you'd probably need

633
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:22,830
to comment on this stuff

634
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,470
um

635
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:26,159
their references cash land from

636
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:31,830
physical evidence related to ufo reports

637
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:34,960
ufo related human physiological effects

638
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:36,640
i mean

639
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:38,559
uh

640
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:47,350
this is all pretty ufo related

641
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:02,310
uh jacques valet confrontations

642
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,110
uh it's a whole lot of ufo books used as

643
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:07,120
references

644
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,030
and other non-ufo books

645
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,909
so

646
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:22,869
this

647
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:24,960
shoes our catalog of ufo-related human

648
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:29,669
was compiled

649
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,240
in 96 by mufon's past director

650
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,960
a very long time period

651
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:38,399
goes through all the different effects

652
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:47,990
included in this paper is it not i mean

653
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,040
why else would you put it in there

654
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:53,119
if you're it's not a reference and we

655
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,720
already know that it is uh being

656
00:35:07,109 --> 00:34:56,879
referenced as it was in the list of

657
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,030
well maybe they're not all hypothetical

658
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,150
i mean i think that could be the

659
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:18,079
situation we're in is

660
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:19,760
possibly some of this stuff isn't

661
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,040
hypothetical as we read earlier

662
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,520
that a lot more data exists on this that

663
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:27,839
is classified and only a small amount is

664
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:38,630
um

665
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:40,480
a lot of this i mean and we know these

666
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:41,599
reports

667
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,510
are are pretty similar to this so

668
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:55,990
i'm sure people that have like if we had

669
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,359
john mack here he'd say yep yep yep yep

670
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:01,760
yep yep

671
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:04,320
but these aren't all abduction related

672
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:06,880
they're just some are some are just

673
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:09,680
encounter related

674
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,720
but the the part that's hypothetical is

675
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:14,720
what the stuff is too i think right it's

676
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,200
anomalous vehicles right

677
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:20,560
[Music]

678
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,359
what

679
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,520
document would you like to see jennifer

680
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:24,720
i stated

681
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,760
that what i'm showing you is

682
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:29,599
there's a link to it in the description

683
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,599
it takes it to

684
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:33,200
the reports

685
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:41,349
from asset so this list here is pretty

686
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:44,240
interesting because what it does

687
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:45,440
is

688
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,960
a lot of different

689
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:51,040
um you know cases that involve close

690
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:52,400
encounters right

691
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:01,030
uh a case of that was available in blue

692
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:02,400
book and

693
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:09,670
the one i found first

694
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:12,560
was based in my hometown of

695
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:16,069
so

696
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:25,829
um

697
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:28,240
read this stuff yourself and make up

698
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,000
your own mind about it um

699
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:33,839
the only advice i could give you is when

700
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:36,640
you do read that paper i would go to all

701
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,920
the papers and look at them as a whole

702
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:42,000
and probably read them all as a whole

703
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,550
but

704
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:50,480
you should

705
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:53,200
so now we just learned a lot about

706
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:54,560
um

707
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,280
radio frequency energy right having to

708
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:59,599
do with uh some of these biological

709
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,880
effects right

710
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:03,119
so now if we go backwards

711
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:05,280
to the preliminary assessment

712
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:12,310
some uap appeared to remain stationary

713
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,599
in winslow move against the wind

714
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,960
maneuver abruptly or move at

715
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,480
considerable speed without discernible

716
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:18,800
means of propulsion in a small which the

717
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,119
propulsion they don't understand as we

718
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,280
just read in a small number of cases

719
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,520
military aircraft systems processed

720
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:28,079
radio frequency energy

721
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:40,150
so that study we read

722
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,280
is studying

723
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,280
the biological effects

724
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,760
that some people have experienced from

725
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:48,079
the uap sightings mentioned in the

726
00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:00,150
i would imagine

727
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,950
now the

728
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,750
last

729
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:10,310
thing here

730
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,510
go over with you

731
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:20,390
is this case

732
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:32,790
cochran cochran wisconsin

733
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:36,630
but it's not pulling up for me so

734
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,119
maybe we're screwed i'll just have to

735
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:41,040
pull up i took like highlights and

736
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,400
clipped highlights from it that i could

737
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,640
show you but those aren't showing so i'm

738
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,320
just going to bring up the whole thing

739
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,560
so this case was mentioned in

740
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:51,280
the paper we just looked at by

741
00:40:03,990 --> 00:39:59,589
so

742
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,000
can look at here is probable astro moon

743
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,430
and i'm just going to skip to the parts

744
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:11,040
that i wanted to read from

745
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:12,800
[Music]

746
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,240
because this is like 70 pages

747
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:17,920
uh the observer stated that she saw a

748
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:19,839
large orange boomerang shaped object

749
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:22,560
that seemed to be surrounded by smoke or

750
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,280
fog

751
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,200
the object hovered over her car in the

752
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,359
car engine stopped

753
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,160
and her lights and radio went dead

754
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:34,720
the observer is uncertain of how long

755
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:37,520
the object was in sight but it appears

756
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,670
so what happens in this uh case here

757
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,040
is

758
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:53,440
you can see that the hector there

759
00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:02,550
no helicopter activity interesting

760
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:05,589
this is probably the best rundown of it

761
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:08,880
and then he later in this he's badgering

762
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:11,760
um dr heineck for his report

763
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,280
on this right

764
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,119
he's like that and a handful of other

765
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,280
reports he's saying hey dr heineck this

766
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,200
is taking too long we need to close all

767
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,200
these cases out can you please get this

768
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,960
into me

769
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,800
if you haven't found new information

770
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,480
please let me know so we can close this

771
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:31,829
you can tell that hector is trying to

772
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:34,400
just close out the cases you know and

773
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:42,790
and later in this report you'll see that

774
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:45,599
hynek finally did turn in this case

775
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:53,430
moon

776
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:00,230
you labeled it as unidentified

777
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,470
interesting and these were like kind of

778
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,800
the last years of finding so it seems to

779
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:06,800
me that he was as he was becoming a

780
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:08,720
believer he got quite sick of working

781
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,760
with the air force on this

782
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:13,839
april 4th 68

783
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,000
the observer and her young son were

784
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,720
driving on route 35 about four miles

785
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,800
south of cochran wisconsin

786
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,720
when the lights of the car

787
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,119
ahead went out the observer then cited

788
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,599
an orangish red crescent shaped object

789
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:29,200
that appeared to be hovering over the

790
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,640
car

791
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,920
in front

792
00:42:36,309 --> 00:42:33,680
the observer stopped her car and the

793
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,319
object appeared to move and hover over

794
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,560
her car the engine of her car then

795
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:39,920
reportedly stopped and the lights and

796
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:42,160
radio stopped working also during this

797
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,680
time the interior of the car seem to

798
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,280
become very hot

799
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,079
particularly the feet of the observers

800
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:50,000
remember i told you to

801
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,599
pay attention to the heat warming thing

802
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:53,040
that we just went over in the awesome

803
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,480
paper

804
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:56,079
the object then appeared to move away

805
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:57,520
and then started to return again the

806
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:00,319
observer then started her car and left

807
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,000
the area of deciding duration of

808
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,960
sighting was about five minutes

809
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,200
it's 1968.

810
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,750
write a paper 2010

811
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:15,430
connected it to the preliminary

812
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,190
reading this from 1968

813
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:31,990
same sentence

814
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,589
although the observer indicated that she

815
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,200
was traveling northeast the map of the

816
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,960
area indicates that the road goes

817
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:39,200
primarily northwest the observers stated

818
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:41,200
in her description that the object was

819
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,480
crescent shaped there was a crescent

820
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,560
moon relatively low in the western sky

821
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,480
the broken cloud cover and fog may have

822
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,400
confused the observer into thinking that

823
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,640
it was something near rather than far

824
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,839
away

825
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:54,000
this assumption would have led to led

826
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,520
her to conclude that it was rapidly

827
00:44:02,430 --> 00:43:57,760
moving chasing her

828
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:05,430
[Music]

829
00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:06,160
so

830
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,839
it's interesting the observer indicated

831
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,520
that there was no moonlight but a police

832
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:11,599
officer who interviewed the observer

833
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,960
uh said that the moon was quite bright

834
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,880
up she's lying

835
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:18,400
the observer was quite upset during the

836
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,000
sighting and states in her testimony

837
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,079
that i started crying a little bit it

838
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:23,760
seems quite possible that in her

839
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,079
excitement fear she may have stalled or

840
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:27,839
turned off the ignition of her car

841
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,960
that's accounting for the engine

842
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,640
stopping

843
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:32,640
the use of the word angel here by the

844
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:35,359
observer is quite interesting

845
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:36,720
it is to me too

846
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,920
there is some evidence from her

847
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:39,359
testimony she was interested in the

848
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,880
subject okay

849
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,560
she's interested in the subject she

850
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:45,520
can't be telling the truth

851
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:52,470
um

852
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,240
i want to get to the heinek part of this

853
00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,480
because that is uh really interesting

854
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,079
how he treats this subject here's a

855
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,800
drawing of it we've seen and have heard

856
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,480
of this type

857
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,040
for a very long time

858
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:11,440
uh one case that i can think of off the

859
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:14,079
top of my head is the

860
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:15,599
lockheed martin

861
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,000
dude in his sighting he had in the 50s

862
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,160
described it as being

863
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:24,560
just like this and other people have as

864
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,760
well

865
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,119
but i've covered that case here so

866
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,200
that's why i mentioned it

867
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:31,520
fuzzy angel here like appearance

868
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:32,800
interesting

869
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,200
i mean obviously we hear angel here all

870
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:37,920
the time the wonderful guest kirsten

871
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:40,640
i just had on here not too long ago

872
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,119
told us of an instance where

873
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:45,520
she had found angel hair people told her

874
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,280
it was

875
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:49,839
cobwebs yeah i'm sure cobwebs falling

876
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,870
oh here we go although dr j allen inec

877
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,640
the air force consultant on ufos feels

878
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:02,880
that this sighting is unidentified as a

879
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,680
result of the extensive analysis of dr

880
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,359
donald menzel the harvard college

881
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,119
observatory the sighting is being

882
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,560
carried in the air force files that's

883
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,640
possibly being caused by the moon so

884
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:14,880
something you should know here

885
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,950
heinek was getting fed up with the air

886
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,640
force

887
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:24,480
sometimes even behind his back they were

888
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:27,440
going to donald munzel for an analysis

889
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,160
because every time donald menzel

890
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:32,000
would give a

891
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,630
above and beyond what was needed to give

892
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:40,960
a prozac cancer in the socorro case for

893
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:43,040
instance donald manziel came up with

894
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:45,599
this huge concoction of uh kids and

895
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:46,800
fireworks

896
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,880
and all this stuff and at the end it was

897
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:50,800
um

898
00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:52,720
you know not accurate because well first

899
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:54,319
of all there were no footprints going to

900
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,800
and from

901
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:58,480
the scene of the

902
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:05,030
menzel was an avid debunker

903
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,720
he was the

904
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,480
you know no offense to dude i guess but

905
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:10,720
he was the mick midwest of

906
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:13,119
that time

907
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:16,560
and he was with the harvard observatory

908
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,470
and he is not

909
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:26,319
and have a debunker

910
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:29,040
um but he's really trying to figure out

911
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:38,470
so

912
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:45,349
uh heineck writes i cannot agree that

913
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:47,040
all pertinent data has been gathered for

914
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,400
example the comments of the preparing

915
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,160
officer stated that the moon was in its

916
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,319
quarter phase that night and moonrise

917
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:54,800
was approximately two uh

918
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,040
2100 hours local time moon rise on that

919
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,359
day it was approximately noon

920
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,520
and moonset was just about midnight

921
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,720
therefore at the time of the sighting

922
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,000
approximately

923
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,240
2015 the moon was still four hours from

924
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,000
setting in fairly high in the sky it was

925
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,319
not yet in its first quarter phase the

926
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,920
observer was looking toward the north

927
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,760
northeast at initial elevation of

928
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,680
approximately 15 degrees moonrise is

929
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:18,000
thus not possible not a possible

930
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:21,760
explanation for this sighting

931
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,750
um valuation of the sighting depends

932
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:29,599
largely as i see it on the right

933
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:32,240
reliability of the witness

934
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,520
he later

935
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:35,119
um

936
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:36,880
interviews the witness

937
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,760
which you can find in this file

938
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:42,480
which i also included in the description

939
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:43,680
of this

940
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:46,079
so you can go through this yourself if

941
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,270
so we we started with uh what hector

942
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,280
said right astral moon because of donald

943
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:58,240
menzel and this is what uh heinek

944
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:59,760
submitted

945
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:01,599
now which one got put on the reports

946
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:02,880
which one

947
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:09,190
i wonder

948
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:11,119
uh brief summary and analysis a 30 year

949
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:13,040
old school teacher and her 10 year old

950
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,480
son coming home from lacrosse wisconsin

951
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:18,800
it's about

952
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,880
four hours west of me

953
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,640
approaching cochrane saw luminous an

954
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:24,720
object hovering overhead stopped and put

955
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,359
out lights of car ahead

956
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,119
a witness

957
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:31,040
stopped several car lengths behind and

958
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,559
pulled off to the side of the road with

959
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,960
engine running object then hovered over

960
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:36,960
her car stopping motor

961
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:39,440
which she was unable to start until

962
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:41,839
object left they experienced intense

963
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:44,720
heat inside of car the soles of their

964
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:47,359
feet were particularly hot

965
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,000
after object left the starter worked and

966
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,760
the witness floored the car on the way

967
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,000
home and locked herself in the young son

968
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:56,319
was thoroughly frightened it did not

969
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,680
wish to talk about it much

970
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:01,920
now that's interesting the kid doesn't

971
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,000
even want to talk about it

972
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,829
you'd think

973
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:11,349
he'd want to talk about it like if the

974
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:14,160
mom was like hey let's make this up

975
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,520
the kid

976
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:17,760
would

977
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:21,280
probably want to play along with that

978
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:22,640
but it's not even worth talking about

979
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,390
yeah so this is like the question and

980
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,040
answer part which is uh very interesting

981
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,440
because this is straight from her

982
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:34,880
and it's uh great to have this

983
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:36,800
transcript so that you can read it for

984
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,670
and i mean you could just

985
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,510
read what you wrote well i kind of know

986
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:48,960
that but the thing

987
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,480
that i wondered is is it really

988
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:52,079
something or isn't it you know because

989
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:53,599
so many people look at you like the

990
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,800
other day there was some distant

991
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:56,400
relation of mine

992
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:57,599
uh

993
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,520
i happened to see him on business and he

994
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,040
wanted to see me and he looked at me

995
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,359
just as much to say well gee

996
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,440
what's the matter with you maybe i don't

997
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:07,280
want to do business with you you know

998
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:08,800
and i was just wondering

999
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:16,950
man isn't that how we all feel

1000
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,030
um

1001
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:27,839
and there's a very interesting part to

1002
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:33,430
which kind of

1003
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:34,880
i mean this whole thing is really

1004
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:37,839
interesting actually

1005
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,040
but one part that stood out to me

1006
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:43,040
um

1007
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:44,800
here that the headlights and taillights

1008
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,240
went out and i thought well isn't that a

1009
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:48,079
crazy trick to play me at this time of

1010
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,599
night you know

1011
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,599
so then i kind of started to pull over

1012
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,920
to the right hand side of road so in

1013
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,520
case you would be there

1014
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:58,240
i wouldn't uh hit him from the back well

1015
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:59,280
then

1016
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:01,040
when this red thing started it was above

1017
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,960
this car in the area and all of a sudden

1018
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:04,880
there is no car there

1019
00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:06,800
i can't hear you now is somebody on the

1020
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:07,120
line

1021
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:08,400
[Music]

1022
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:09,440
okay

1023
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,559
they're just talking to each other on

1024
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:11,760
the phone

1025
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:13,119
hello

1026
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,390
okay so

1027
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,150
um

1028
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,839
but now did you put your lights out

1029
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,359
yourself no i pulled over to the side of

1030
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,280
the road and i left my lights on so i

1031
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:29,119
could see if anything happened makes

1032
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,960
sense and then all of a sudden my car

1033
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:32,640
kept running and then i watched this

1034
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,680
thing as it was up in the air above this

1035
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,720
other car

1036
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,800
well then pretty soon i was watching it

1037
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,400
i didn't watch the other car and it may

1038
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:43,359
have driven on or i don't know

1039
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:44,720
see that's why i won't say what happened

1040
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:49,670
um

1041
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:54,930
to

1042
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,150
really bring up it was about how she

1043
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:02,319
felt how this thing was

1044
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,270
teasing her basically

1045
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:10,630
the best color i can say it would be is

1046
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,640
an orangish reddish color and it looked

1047
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,200
like sort of an angel here they see

1048
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,520
through interesting

1049
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:19,839
and yet it had an orange and red like it

1050
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:26,950
that's like the video i posted except

1051
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,750
um

1052
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:41,750
did the shape change

1053
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:43,510
wow

1054
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:45,520
i mean this is uh this is what you want

1055
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,880
this is why we should be listening to

1056
00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:48,000
witnesses

1057
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:50,079
uh well when it came above us then it

1058
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,319
was definite as far as uh if it was a

1059
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,400
solid object i mean there was a definite

1060
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,559
pattern but it seemed to be more solid

1061
00:54:06,870 --> 00:53:58,720
and then toward the edges it was more

1062
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:09,109
oh man this yeah this is uh this is

1063
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,710
pretty amazing

1064
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:16,880
take that document

1065
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:19,359
read it

1066
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:21,920
and then it just went straight well

1067
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:29,349
quite a story right in my home state i

1068
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:34,950
see if anybody exists that could speak

1069
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,520
to this stellar

1070
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,440
um okay so this is the part i thought

1071
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,520
was pretty interesting yes i was using

1072
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:42,880
it and it went

1073
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:44,799
over there above the field and then as

1074
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:46,640
soon as i got the car started then it

1075
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:48,240
started to come back toward me again

1076
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:50,079
like it was teasing me or something and

1077
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:51,599
by that time i had floored the car and

1078
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:53,119
i'd gotten up to cochran by the mill

1079
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:53,920
there

1080
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:56,000
and the highway is lighted so then it

1081
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,760
just gradually went back again and i saw

1082
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:00,160
crossing the railroad tracks and then i

1083
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:02,880
looked down the railroad tracks and

1084
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:06,559
toward the field and it was just going

1085
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:12,390
okay

1086
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,430
so teasing uh we hear a lot about the

1087
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:17,280
like trickster aspect so that's why i

1088
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,480
kind of mentioned and i thought it was

1089
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:20,720
interesting

1090
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:21,760
so

1091
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:28,470
um

1092
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,559
you know so

1093
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,160
i've said this is an important show for

1094
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,559
me maybe the most important because um

1095
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:36,559
just a lot

1096
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:37,599
kind of

1097
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:39,680
clicked here today

1098
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,799
you know

1099
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:42,559
go back over what louis said about

1100
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:47,030
read

1101
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:48,559
the paper that we just went over on

1102
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,069
look at that case look at other cases

1103
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,920
the cash landrum case

1104
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,599
there was another case

1105
00:56:02,069 --> 00:55:59,680
like a day after a sagaro where a young

1106
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:02,079
girl got burned by ufo it was in the

1107
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:07,589
and you can put all this stuff together

1108
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:13,589
what

1109
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:16,400
we can do

1110
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:17,520
um

1111
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:23,030
kind of i want to do uh what the heck is

1112
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,880
that but i'm not going to have

1113
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:25,920
um

1114
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:29,119
time for that today unfortunately but

1115
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,559
hopefully you don't mind i think we

1116
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,480
covered a lot of stuff so

1117
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,880
um just go in the description there's

1118
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,720
click on all the links the dropbox link

1119
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:38,319
is just for that paper we went over

1120
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,200
today

1121
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:41,200
uh the link to the website i think which

1122
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,359
is on the top uh gets you a link to all

1123
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:45,520
like 37 or 38

1124
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:46,400
um

1125
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,480
papers awesome did

1126
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:53,510
the case actually that i just shared i

1127
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:56,240
did not put the description so

1128
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,040
let me

1129
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,280
um hold on for a second and i will get

1130
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,280
that to you right now

1131
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:05,599
i'll put it in the chat

1132
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,240
so you can have it

1133
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:10,640
because that was kind of a last

1134
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,230
um because as i was reading that uh that

1135
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:18,319
awesome paper i'm like wait i could find

1136
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:19,599
some of these

1137
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:25,270
so

1138
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,670
and i did look up a handful of cases

1139
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:33,760
that i couldn't really find

1140
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:35,920
in there

1141
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,440
this is the first one i could find that

1142
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:39,440
was in there so

1143
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:41,920
you can have that case in there

1144
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,550
pay attention what's going on

1145
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:48,400
[Music]

1146
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:50,319
this stuff is becoming more legit every

1147
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:51,440
day

1148
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:52,559
um

1149
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:54,480
as far as we were gonna i was gonna talk

1150
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,160
about the preliminary assessment some

1151
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,880
more pages came out from black vault uh

1152
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,040
we learned absolutely nothing from those

1153
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:03,520
other than that they are continuing

1154
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,480
to uh withhold information from us and

1155
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,040
after we go through this stuff today

1156
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,880
like

1157
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:12,960
uh we have a right to know uh everything

1158
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:15,040
that we can't know so

1159
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,480
um

1160
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:18,799
peace out

1161
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:29,349
and i will see you on the flip side

1162
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:30,309
right

1163
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:32,079
the flip side i don't know what clip

1164
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:33,599
this is i'm about to play but i hope

1165
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,789
oh it's the what the heck is that

1166
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:44,069
does that mean we have to do what the

1167
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:53,030
oh man

1168
00:58:59,589 --> 00:58:55,190
i do have a couple uh what the heck is

1169
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:03,270
but

1170
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:05,750
i don't know i should probably

1171
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:08,880
i should probably go before

1172
00:59:29,150 --> 00:59:14,580
so